Marbas

Marbas (http://www.occultforums.com/showthread.php?t=4371)

LadyHydralisk 06-30-2004 09:03 AM

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Marbas

A couple of people requested I repost this so here it is, I don't know how I found it.

Well I am still charged up from the ritual, it was very successful. Marbas appeared without any problems as soon as we called him. This coincided with the appearance of a sudden drizzle of rain. He was very helpful in answering all of our questions. When asked what herbs or incense he preferred....drumroll please....he answered "cedar". After answering our questions we thanked him and also asked him what he might like in return. This was the fun part. He immediately requested that his sigil be placed in water. His demeanor was hurried, as if he was expecting us to give him license to depart at any moment. I asked him if the Mississipi river would be a good place. He was very pleased with this idea. WHen asked what material and how large the sigil should be, he stated "Well now that you mention it..." And he started to relax a little, giving us a description of his ideal tribute. He wanted it to be nine feet tall, made of gold, and visible to everyone who passed by! I told him this simply was not feasible with our income, he would either have to provide the means to do this or settle for aluminum foil or wood. He was adamant that aluminum would be much better than wood, so long as it was alot of aluminum. He also added that gold-like appearance would be almost as good as real gold. At this point in the conferance a cat starting going batshit outside against the door of the garage we were in. "And feed that cat!" came the demon's response to this sudden ruckus. The cat turned out to be my own familiar who was indeed very very hungry when he was let back in. At this point we told him goodbye and thanked him, and, making a rather disparaging yet humorous comment about the stodgy "License to Depart" ritual, he left before I ever had a chance to get the second sentence out of my mouth.

The next day....

I had an unexpected call from a family member with an emergency this evening so we performed another evocation of Marbas. But first, we had to fulfill the small favor we had promised in the previously detailed evocation.

We used a Dremil engraving bit to etch the sigil into a round closet door catch panel. Away past the pyramid we went, and I flung it into the Mississipi.

Marbas coalesced in the triangle much quicker this time. We asked if he was pleased with the disc in the river, he said yes. We managed to get some babysitting for the kids so I asked him many, many questions, answered a few of his, all of which was very interesting, and the answers to a few of which I am allowed to share.

For one, I asked how many times he gets summoned in one day. He answered "1,023". At that particular moment, twenty something evocations of Marbas were active, some in China, Southern Africa, America, Japan and various other parts of the world. I asked him what he thought of other magicians who use the Spirit's Chain. He replied that he did not like them at all, and that they were "whiny".

I asked what names he was known by in Lakota and Navajo, this he answered, "Tankanen" and something else. At this point I realized that I had forgotten to keep a pen and paper handy. He added that these names were very very old. When asked what name he preferred best, he replied "Marbas".

When asked about diseases, he said that although he engineers diseases, and engineers a cure at the same time, he has nothing to do with how they are implemented. He admitted to having developed the bubonic plague that devastated Europe, but had no hand in how it was administered. He was not at liberty to speak of the HIV cure, but he did mention that it was not ready to be revealed yet.

I asked him why he manifested as a lion. He stated that he admired cats, "They are good free wild creatures who are sleek and powerful and live without regret."

When asked what he thought of humans in general, he demonstrated that he thought they were very wasteful and had much unrealized potential. We offered to answer any questions he might have. He only wanted to know what the purpose of hair was. "Why do humans color their hair?" It took a while to answer this one.

When asked about health issues, he stated that he cannot influense someone against their will. If it is someone's will to nurture bad health, he has little say in the outcome. For instance, he can rid someone of their physical addiction to alcohol, but he cannot rid them of their psychological need. He also stated that pets can succumb to illness if their owner is in poor mental condition. He was very adamant about the connection between mind and body, that humans can "Choose" to be sick.

Physical pain is not known to demons, he says, the pain they fear is the pain of restriction, of having their will bound, although they posess a will, it has limited parameters. He stated that humans, as creatures of duality, have a free will without restriction, they can create any reality they wish.

When asked about hell and other planets, he said that the particular hell restricted to our solar system is one of many throughout the universe. "Other hells have other demons, in other star systems" We didn't go much deeper into this.

And for the record, Tengu are NOT demons. we have already cross-referenced this with several other entities.

We asked him if he could travel and manifest through sigils on a computer screen. He went into technology a little and stated that he had no power to travel through a computer screen image of his sigil, but a printed page had power.

By the time we had given him license to depart, two hours had passed in what seemed to be a fourth that time.


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spike, from bumfock, japan, wrote

Yes, please detail what he looked like. And the voice you heard - from him, or air? Masculine voice, threatening, etc..

Thanks for helping me picture this.



Just a normal male voice coming off of the ethereal plane. As for appearance, a lion made out of pure fire, though this was a brief clairvoyant image, I had nothing setup for him to physically manifest with to full glory, except for a candle and some incense. The incense wavered in accordance with his speech and actions. I did ask him to describe himself and apologized that I could not see him, as he was probably very beautiful. TO this he replied "I thought you could see me, and in full form I AM very very beautiful,...most of the time." Well I suppose he meant the very small manifestation in the incense was the visible form.


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Derdekea wrote

Sounds like Marbas has a great sense of humor!

Can you tell us more about how the actual summoning went? Did you use the Goetic version, or one of your own?


It went really smoothly. We did use the Goetic version to some extant. We did the original bornless ritual after evoking our god mentors to babysit us. Then we did the conjuration to call forth Marbas. We didn't go through with the second conjuration because he showed up before I had even finished the first. Then we went through the first address, which makes them obey. Then we welcomed him and sat down to have the chat. After giving the license to depart, we asked our god mentors to clear the room of the negative discharge, which they did.

LadyHydralisk 06-30-2004 09:20 AM

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It's not the whole thread but it's all I could find, the rest of the pages are history.

Ashnook 06-30-2004 10:20 AM

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Quite awesome Lady. Could he possibly have manifested as a lion sense you like cats so much, also what other names does he go by (perhaps sumerian name or egyptian).

Horus 06-30-2004 03:32 PM

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thanks again lady! if you and other goetic magicians post enough war stories here I think we might have to request you get your own sticky!

insert_name_here 06-30-2004 04:18 PM

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I hate Goetia and never worked with any demons aside Paimon, reading this makes me laugh, I understand from story's he is quite a smartass. It is interesting... Tankanen, I will have to investigate this. Thanks.

DeviouZ 06-30-2004 04:31 PM

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That's pretty cool. But how could there possibly be 1,023 evocations per day?? There aren't that many magicians in this world, are there?

comedian777 06-30-2004 06:17 PM

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THere are a lot more magicians than you would think, DevioZ. And a LOT of people who don't even consider themselves magicians that work with entities anyway.

Son of a Montage 07-01-2004 05:54 AM

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You should try to find all your threads concerning Goetia and repost them.

Hell, use Goetia to find them...

Ludi 07-01-2004 06:42 AM

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I'm interested to know if just one person heard the voice, or more than one, and if they all heard the same words?

Did more than one person get the impression of the flaming lion?

LadyHydralisk 07-01-2004 08:38 AM

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The only two visions that were consistant was that of a lion, and the face of a man, interchangeably. He also communicated with pictures alot of the time, and the focus (channeler) said he displayed text alongside images like a website or flyer sometimes.


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You should try to find all your threads concerning Goetia and repost them.

Hell, use Goetia to find them...



It would be nice if I had time to do all of the summonings I wanted, but demons make terrible baby sitters. :\ I'll try to find the rest.

Ashnook 07-01-2004 08:41 AM

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What other names does he go by, perhaps egyptian name or sumerian?

phenix218@hotmail.com 07-01-2004 09:19 AM

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ladyhydralisk I see your post up all the time concerning goetic invocations (and if it wasn't your name that i have seened all the time then i stand corrected) but out of all or any of the evocations that you've worked i have to ask have you and the other people who participate take ceremonial baths before doing your work?

I AM 07-01-2004 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DeviouZ
That's pretty cool. But how could there possibly be 1,023 evocations per day?? There aren't that many magicians in this world, are there?



Yes there are. You forget that the Asian world has MANY Ceremonial Magickians. It is different than the western tradition but that does not make it less potent.

There are far more Ceremonial Magickians than many think.

Humbly, I AM

LadyHydralisk 07-01-2004 09:30 AM

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Actual journal record

Here is the actual record I have of it in my journal which I filled in after the evocation, I forgot to bring it in circle with me, it's a little fresher than what I wrote here. I thought I had not written it down outside of occult forums but that was only because I had put it in my Dinotopia journal and not the Journal with the spooky raven sorceress on it I got from my venerable mother which I usually use. Something told me to look in there and I found it, so here it is. The text in parentheses is what I added. In italics is all of the journal text.

"Tonite we evoked Marbas. He was not visible to our eyes. I asked if he could help with our problem (social engineering). He said "That is not my station, you should try Orobas, (at first it was unclear, and sounded like Orgos, but we sorted it out) he is the one to grant prelacies" Then I asked him if he could fix a health problem. He said yes, I felt a sensation like he was pressing my head together, like the download feeling I got from the first imp. It remains to be seen what this will do. (health problem fixed a few weeks later)


The channeler discerned after asking what he wished in return, that he wanted his sigil "Placed in water for everyone to see" So I said how about the Mississipi? He said "Yes, that would be nice." we haggled for a bit more. Well, haggled is such an ugly word. We entertained his ideas. We settled on a sigil made of metal preferably gold (he also assured us gold colored would be fine, and not actual gold) Ideally, it would be nine feet tall so everyone could see it. lol! We'll make one as soon as it is convenient.

February 25th, 2004 (aka the next day)

We practiced affirmations for a short time. a fun exercise. I am preparing for the next evocation and will be using Samigal as reccomended by the Thoth deck. Samigal locates the souls of the dead and teaches liberal sciences. No replies to my request on OF for info. I am sure someone will post there. I am not sure how much more elaborate I want the ritual should be. If I want to evoke to physical manifestion, I will need some (fu fu fu)

(afternoon)

I cant forget to drop off the sigil of Marbas in the Mississipi. Hopefully get that done tonight.

(late night)

Summoned Marbas again tonight, Success! I also dropped his sigil into the river as asked, so much to write of. More tomorrow, tired and need a shower.

February 26th

We performed the task as requested. We were all very cabalistic, sneaking about to make demonic offerings. lol We got babysitting :P

When called upone, Marbas appeared very quickly. We asked if he was pleased with his sigil. He replied "Yes" We then proceeded with the questions. I needed healing help for the wolf pup, she (caretaker) had phoned earlier feeling down and hung up before I could answer her about her problem. I could not phone her back because I don't have a number by which to reach her.

Marbas, when asked how many evocations were being performed at that moment, answered "20" He said he was evoked up to 1,000 times a day under various names.

China, South Africa, Japan, and America were all locations given.

We asked what his name in Navajo and Lakota was. He replied Tanskanen or Tankanen which was unclear, and something else. I forgot to keep a log.

When asked what name he prefered, he replied, "Marbas". He seemed to express some regret that the (ancient) native americans were not here. (we went into this indepth but I didn't write it down) He referred to them as so "Native Americans? You mean the first peoples." He expressed that he thought they were easier to care for. He said their annhilation was out of his hands. We asked about the diseases of the world, was the Goetia correct in it's assessment of him? He replied "Yes" additionally he had engineered the Bubonic Plague and HIV, he did not apply them.

We asked why he manigested as a lion. He stated "They (cats) are free, wild, good creatures who are powerful and live without regret."

We asked if he had any questions for us./ He asked why humans color their hair. We answered "For vanity" He said "Vanity is dangerous."

We went into topics about dating and the attractiveness of hair. This led to the topic of sex. (at the mention of this) The atmosphere in the room suddenly changed, and Marbas suddently tried to coerce us into performing "In his name", stating "I like that". He backed off without an argument after learning we wern't interested. Why? we asked. "Power" was the response.

When asked about health issues he said he would do all he could but that humans can choose to be sick, and he can't stop us. We have a free will and strong minds. "I do not change mental states." he added.

He replied, when asked about what demons feared, demons don't feel physical pain, they fear the pain of restriction, of impeded will. He also stated that humans, as creatures of duality, have a free will without restriction, and can create any reality we wish.

He stated that sigils of light have little power compared to a printed page.

"There are other hells in other star systems, our hell is restricted to Sol.:

When asked about (cut out at the request of Marbas)

When asked what became of eaten souls, he said "If the soul is new, or fresh enough" it may escape, if it is to far gone it was lost forever.

He would not foretell destiny, as it "was not his function"

He spoke on Solomon the King and said that he had indeed been a man.

He affirmed that hell had many levels, plates stacked on upon the other. He said that each level feeds on your emotions and spits out the opposite feedback. To move from one plane to another required certain "prelacies" as he put it.

On time, he said, "Time is like a puzzle, you rearrange the pieces to get where you would like to go."

He was very eager to help with healing, he had a laid back personality.

To recap:

Element: Water
Herb/Incense: Cedar
Abilities: Healing, causing disease, teaching, sexual posession

(sigil drawn in journal)

More in other topics as I find them. I just recently started recording evocations in journals so I only have the few I put on this site, actually.

Horus 07-01-2004 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DeviouZ
That's pretty cool. But how could there possibly be 1,023 evocations per day?? There aren't that many magicians in this world, are there?

At one point we probably had that many members at occultforums.

Edit - scratch that, we almost have that many now :) there's no telling how many we had before.

LadyHydralisk 07-02-2004 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by: phenix218@hotmail.com i have to ask have you and the other people who participate take ceremonial baths before doing your work?

Yes.


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Originally posted by I AM: Yes there are. You forget that the Asian world has MANY Ceremonial Magickians. It is different than the western tradition but that does not make it less potent.



"Samurai Wizard" by Kuniyoshi, acclaimed master artist, Japan

Ludi 07-02-2004 03:52 AM

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So Lady Hydralisk am I to understand that only the one person was actually in communication with this being?

Thanks, I just want to really understand what you're saying.

:D

Tzimtzum 07-02-2004 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ludi
So Lady Hydralisk am I to understand that only the one person was actually in communication with this being?

Thanks, I just want to really understand what you're saying.

:D


At one time? No. They're typically versitile enough to carry on quite a few conversations at one time. By ability and minions.

Otherwise, the Archangels would be darn near unreachable. ;) Considering how they're probably called upon at least a dozen times /minute.

That'd be funny as hell...

"We're sorry, the archangel [MICHAEL] is unavailable. Please leave your prayer, offering, request, or curse after the tone, including the name of the entity who's ass you want kicked. If you feel you have reached this recording in error, press 5=6 now. For the operator, press 10=1. Please record at the tone." "EEEEEEAAAAAAAOOOOOOO!!" (Then your ears bleed...) :D

Thalassa 07-02-2004 04:50 AM

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he demonstrated that he thought they were very wasteful and had much unrealized potential.
I agree with this. We have so much more unknown abilities.

Aodh 07-02-2004 04:53 AM

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Unrealized potential and unknown abilities are wholly different subjects. Potential is what we are able to accomplish. An ability is a specific thing one CAN accomplish. Unrealized potential means we don't realize how powerful we really are. Not knowing a few abilities means not knowing we could (for example) walk. Walking doesn't make us more powerful, it's a demonstration of our power as are all abilities. Or at least that's my take on it.

Thalassa 07-02-2004 08:21 AM

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Ability, power, things that one can do... All quite similiar to me. Anyway it could be potential for having unknown abilities, powers, things that one can attain. That's how I see it.

erisdoe 07-02-2004 09:43 AM

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LadyHydralisk, What do you mean by "eaten souls"? What is your belief structure? I am interested in Marbas' description of the layers of hell. Are you able to explain that in greater detail? Thanks.

comedian777 07-02-2004 11:17 AM

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LadyHydralisk, I just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience with Marbas with all of us. As always, you are very informative, and honest.
As for the rest of you, evocation, believe it or not, is not hard. I hope that I am not being offtopic by recomending that you try it. I understand many will be thinking: " I am not ready." IF you think like that, then you'll never succeed. Try it. You'll get results. Might not be how televison and movies leads you to think that it will work, in fact, it WON'T. But try it.

Lady Hydralisk, I like that you asked it its other names. I have put before that during an evocation of Zulumar (who is admittedly a Nec entity) he said that he was also called "Brahmaputra." I admit that I have next to no knowledge of Hinduism, but after searching I have found nothing on that name. But just because a name given is obscure, or not longer remembered does not take away from its validity. It could be a forgotten name from any given cult. It could be Gematric code. Or it could simply a nickname. I applaud your asking of this and your posting of the results, Lady Hydralisk. You have a lot of courage to come forward with your experience, especially the parts left to investigation. That shows a lot about you, Lady, and I for one would like to say that I respect you very much for posting about such a private experience in such detail.

Kinjo 07-02-2004 02:49 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by comedian777
LadyHydralisk, I just wanted to thank you for sharing your experience with Marbas with all of us. As always, you are very informative, and honest.
As for the rest of you, evocation, believe it or not, is not hard. I hope that I am not being offtopic by recomending that you try it. I understand many will be thinking: " I am not ready." IF you think like that, then you'll never succeed. Try it. You'll get results. Might not be how televison and movies leads you to think that it will work, in fact, it WON'T. But try it.


interesting.
i think ur the first one i encounter to recommend to try it without much warning.
it is true that you'll never succeed if you don't try. but how about a difference between a dabbler and a prepared/experienced magician:?:

i'm only doing lbrp several times a week for 3 months, and i'm not even confident that they're effective. so, i'm not going to jump the gun unless i'm sure i'm protected. also, it is mentioed that you must have some scrying skills right... the basic means of astral communication.

what do you think comedian777:?:

Ludi 07-02-2004 05:34 PM

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Tzimtzum,

I was asking Lady Hydralisk if the being was only communicating with one person *in her group* during the time of the evocation, not whether a being is *capable* of communicating with more than one person at a time.

I'm hoping she will answer my question.

Darkfay 07-02-2004 07:12 PM

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Thank you for reposting, LadyHydralisk!

LadyHydralisk 07-02-2004 08:45 PM

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We asked that he direct his answers only to the channeler's questions, to keep things tidy. But some of the answers were broadcast, so we both could see and hear them. And the presence was visible to all.

Ludi 07-02-2004 10:34 PM

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Thank you, Lady Hydralisk. :D

morphine 07-03-2004 07:59 AM

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Brahamputra is a river in India that is all I know.the longest river of India
 

 

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